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Post by Kalisiin Kumaki on Dec 27, 2011 17:37:14 GMT -5
Like I said...I just happen to like what I am familiar with.
i'm not the sort that often likes to try new things. Ask strider, he knows...he's known me a lot longer.
It was amazing that Strider got me to try something new.... The Dark Spire... and I am glad that he did. but if it don't look, feel and play like the 80's then I am not interested.
I just don't like new-fangled stuff, I'm an old fuddy duddy - a tech Luddite that wants to go just so far and then no farther. That's just me, and I'm not likely to change.
Like I said, I just like things I am familiar with...and which have a certain feel to them.
I am the person for whom the old-fashioned dungeon-crawler was made for. All the same, I am happy to provide this place to discuss ALL games, old or new.
I just personally would not participate much in the discussion on the newer games, because I can't speak knowledgeably about them.
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Post by shokushuko on Dec 28, 2011 5:24:59 GMT -5
Well as a hardcore dungeon crawler fan, you should definitely play Shin Megami Tensei/Persona games. They have 3D maze style and are turn based. I guess Arcana (SNES) is also the maze style.
If you're a Dragon Quest fan, perhaps you should play Earthbound. That game is pretty much a parody of the Dragon Quest.
What exactly does an 80s feel game require though? I mean, if you like Dragon Quest, does that not mean you can like any isometric RPG without ATB? I mean, you experienced the worst of ATB, so I'd still implore to give later ATB using games a chance. But my question here is, would you play SNES/PSX/GBA/DS games that are turn-based and isometric?
See one of my favourite games is Rudora no Hihou/Treasure of the Rudra, and that didn't use the ATB system. The Lufia games are also turn-based. For GBA you have Golden Sun.
Also, why did you never give Pokemon a go? It's simplistic, but it can still be fun to play.
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Post by Kalisiin Kumaki on Dec 28, 2011 7:05:49 GMT -5
I may try some of those. I never tried Pokemon, because I never liked Pokemon.
I am of the generation that came before Pokemon, and found Pikachu extremely irritating.
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Post by shokushuko on Dec 28, 2011 8:40:34 GMT -5
But if you never played Pokemon you have no grounds to hate it... How can you even find Pikachu annoying if you haven't even played the game and catched a Pikachu and attempted to battle with it. If your answer is because of the cartoon, then your argument is invalid because it's a random kid's cartoon made to captitalise on the success the game had. Mario, Sonic, Megaman and Zelda had terrible cartoon adaptions too. If you're to judge the games based off the terrible TV series and movies they had, you'd never play any popular game.
Pokemon isn't really an amazing game, but it can be simple RPG fun. Some Dragon Quest games have recruitable monsters don't they? It's just a straight forward game based of recruiting monsters. I'm only suggesting that you could spend some time on it because it's not really a complicated game.
You're also not big on answering the questions I ask you >_>
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Post by Kalisiin Kumaki on Dec 28, 2011 12:37:37 GMT -5
Yes, i based my thing about Pokemon based on the horrible cartoon...I figured the cartoon came first then the game...and so the game must contain the horrible annoying character. It STILL just plain isn't my generation.
As to the accusation about not answering questions...I don't really enjoy being attacked for my likes and dislikes.
And I am sorry, maybe you don't MEAN it that way...but it sure feels to me as if I am under attack.
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Post by Warlock on Dec 28, 2011 15:12:31 GMT -5
I concur- I'm not a huge Pokemon fan, but I did put in some time to see what all the fuss was about back in the day. I have to say that for what is, at it's core, a product-placement-centric game aimed at the young-teen set, I thought the game had a surprising amount of depth. Really, I think it would stand on its own even in a universe without the cartoon or the various other merchandising tie-ins.
I feel I should also say for the record that the original pair, at least, do not actually center around Pikachu- you can catch Pikachus (and they're pretty good, IIRC), but you're not actually required to and you can just ignore them if you like.
- HC
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Post by Kalisiin Kumaki on Dec 28, 2011 16:30:46 GMT -5
I concur- I'm not a huge Pokemon fan, but I did put in some time to see what all the fuss was about back in the day. I have to say that for what is, at it's core, a product-placement-centric game aimed at the young-teen set, I thought the game had a surprising amount of depth. - HC Bold and underlines added by me to emphasize it. This is exactly it...I am 40. This is not aimed at, or intended, for my age group, really. Like I said before, it just really isn't my generation stuff. And that, in a nutshell, is it with regards to most new games for me...they really are not aimed at my generation. The older games WERE aimed at us. Again, I don't think there is any crime in preferring the stuff you grew up with, and the stuff you're familiar with...over new release stuff aimed at the younger set. Just as an example...The Dark Spire...WAS aimed at me, and the niche market I tend to be attracted to...the old-fashioned dungeon-crawler. So I DO look at reviews and stuff for newer games, when I have time...but generally do not find much...I was glad Strider called my attention to the game. Incidentally, I looked up some info on Treasure of the Rudra - which was mentioned as a Board to add (and which I did add)...now THAT game, to me, seems worthy of a try. the synopsis I read about the game was enough to get me interested in perhaps taking a look. |
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Post by shokushuko on Dec 28, 2011 20:58:13 GMT -5
But what I was saying was that Pokemon is some simple RPG fun. Even if a game is aimed for younger audiences, if it's a decent game, it can still be enjoyed by all audiences. I'm not trying to convince you that it's an amazing game. I'm just saying it's a game that any RPG fan can enjoy for a fix of RPG gaming. I don't think you'd hate Pokemon as much as you think.
And anyway. I'm not attacking you. I'm trying to understand your interests. How can I suggest games to you if I can't find the exact line of interest and the conditions keeping you from a lot of games. I try to clear misconceptions you have and challenge statements that sound flawed but I'm not criticising your taste. I only want to see you play more games, but only on your terms.
I'm just semantic and like to argue about the little things.
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Post by Kalisiin Kumaki on Dec 28, 2011 22:19:55 GMT -5
But what I was saying was that Pokemon is some simple RPG fun. Even if a game is aimed for younger audiences, if it's a decent game, it can still be enjoyed by all audiences. I'm not trying to convince you that it's an amazing game. I'm just saying it's a game that any RPG fan can enjoy for a fix of RPG gaming. I don't think you'd hate Pokemon as much as you think. And anyway. I'm not attacking you. I'm trying to understand your interests. How can I suggest games to you if I can't find the exact line of interest and the conditions keeping you from a lot of games. I try to clear misconceptions you have and challenge statements that sound flawed but I'm not criticising your taste. I only want to see you play more games, but only on your terms. I'm just semantic and like to argue about the little things. It's okay...I can tend to get a little oversensitive. Still, though, I know what I like. It took Strider a while to get to know me and what I like, too. Incidentally, I read a synopsis on Treasure of Rudras and it seems lust interesting enough to give it a try. but I'm still busy with DQ9 right now...heaven knows WHEN i'll get to the remake of DQ6...bought it, downloaded the ROM, still have not yet played them, lol. |
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Post by shokushuko on Dec 28, 2011 22:33:37 GMT -5
I'd definitely like to play the remake of DQ6 I suppose. I never played enough of it and I did like it. The main problem is that I played a broken barely translated SNES copy. Not even halfway through the game, the translators gave up... They didn't even leave Japanese. You just had everyone saying:
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I think I found a better translated SNES copy but I didn't find the time to play through it.
While people know what they like, they're also stubborn and you have to try something before you know for sure if you like something.
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Post by Kalisiin Kumaki on Dec 29, 2011 7:28:50 GMT -5
I'd definitely like to play the remake of DQ6 I suppose. I never played enough of it and I did like it. The main problem is that I played a broken barely translated SNES copy. Not even halfway through the game, the translators gave up... They didn't even leave Japanese. You just had everyone saying: ">> >> >> >> >>" I think I found a better translated SNES copy but I didn't find the time to play through it. While people know what they like, they're also stubborn and you have to try something before you know for sure if you like something. I have played thru a translated copy of DQ6, the NoPrgress version is about 90% translated...there are a few untranslated things, but the emulator plays all the way through. It's a good game...the remake has changed a few things, as I understand...including all but eliminating monster recruitment....which is not really a bad thing for DQ6, because with all the skills you can learn from the different jobs, there was not much difference in the characters after a while. You still can recruit slimes for the Slime Arena, as I understand...and you also still get Rookie. At least, that is as I understand since I have as yet to play the remake myself. |
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Post by Scorpio on Jul 13, 2014 0:43:51 GMT -5
All this talk of Pokemon and Zelda is good and all, but shouldn't we have topics/boards for them (...do we)?
On the topic of Metroid, all I've played is Zero Mission, but it's fun. It's a good remake of the original, and I enjoyed getting all the stuff I could (except for this one Super Missile tank that's ludicrously hard to get). It's also one of my nostalgic games, having gotten it like ten years ago, and it's one of the games I've lent to my brother to play.
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Post by Kalisiin Kumaki on Jul 13, 2014 19:11:59 GMT -5
Nobody has really requested a board for those, per se, Scorpio, and, if there doesn't seem a huge amount of interest I tend not to create a board, because if there's too many boards with too few topics on them, it can discourage new peeps from cjecking us out. Most of the Zelda/Pokemon convo took place over three years ago.
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